How Chuck Billy bridged Exodus gap
Testament man explains how he helped bring Steve Souza back for Blood In, Blood Out
Select the newsletters you’d like to receive. Then, add your email to sign up.
You are now subscribed
Your newsletter sign-up was successful
Want to add more newsletters?
Every Friday
Louder
Louder’s weekly newsletter is jam-packed with the team’s personal highlights from the last seven days, including features, breaking news, reviews and tons of juicy exclusives from the world of alternative music.
Every Friday
Classic Rock
The Classic Rock newsletter is an essential read for the discerning rock fan. Every week we bring you the news, reviews and the very best features and interviews from our extensive archive. Written by rock fans for rock fans.
Every Friday
Metal Hammer
For the last four decades Metal Hammer has been the world’s greatest metal magazine. Created by metalheads for metalheads, ‘Hammer takes you behind the scenes, closer to the action, and nearer to the bands that you love the most.
Every Friday
Prog
The Prog newsletter brings you the very best of Prog Magazine and our website, every Friday. We'll deliver you the very latest news from the Prog universe, informative features and archive material from Prog’s impressive vault.
Chuck Billy has explained how he and his management group helped bring Steve ‘Zetro’ Souza back to Exodus in time to appear on latest album Blood In, Blood Out.
Souza returned for a third stint last year, replacing former frontman Rob Dukes after years of bad feeling between the singer and guitarist Gary Holt.
And Testament frontman Billy, who runs the Breaking Bands management firm, hints that the group were already thinking of ditching Dukes, who’d spent nine years with them.
Billy tells KTVU: “All we knew was that they were getting ready to do a new record and that possibly Rob might not be on this one. We thought, ‘What do we do? Do we go out, start from scratch and get a new singer? Or do we maybe bring Zet back into the fold?
“We tossed it around and said, ‘The thing that makes sense is Zet – he knows all the old material. He could step right in and nail the new record right away.’”
In order to avoid unnecessary argument, Billy arranged for Souza to record a version of one of the songs planned for Blood In, Blood Out. “He knocked it out in one take and we sent it to Gary Holt and the guys,” says Billy. “They said, ‘We know what we’re going to do.’”
He adds: “It wasn’t a big management thing. We just facilitated it and made sure they were going to communicate. Because communicating among band members – especially bands that are trying to get back together – it’s not the best.”
The latest news, features and interviews direct to your inbox, from the global home of alternative music.
Earlier this month, Souza said his relationship with Holt was better than ever. Exodus return to the UK in June:
Jun 23: London Underworld
Jun 24: London Underworld
Jun 25: Manchester Academy 3

Scott has spent 37 years in newspapers, magazines and online as an editor, production editor, sub-editor, designer, writer and reviewer. Scott joined our news desk in 2014 before moving into e-commerce in 2020. Scott maintains Louder’s buyer’s guides, highlights deals, and reviews headphones, speakers, earplugs and more. Over the last 12 years, Scott has written more than 11,500 articles across Louder, Classic Rock, Metal Hammer and Prog. He's previously written for publications including IGN, Sunday Mirror, Daily Record and The Herald, covering everything from news and features, to tech reviews, video games, travel and whisky. Scott's favourite bands are Fields Of The Nephilim, The Cure, New Model Army, All About Eve, The Mission, Cocteau Twins, Drab Majesty, Marillion and Rush.
